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CONTINUED FROM 'NO CONSTANT SELF' In a compelling TED Talk, Anil Seth demonstrates that the human brain hallucinates your conscious reality. In the group discussion published at the end of the post, No Constant Self, Anja and Gary continue.... Your brain hallucinates your conscious reality | Anil Seth Right now, billions of neurons in your brain are working together to generate a conscious experience -- and not just any conscious experience, your experience of the world around you and of yourself within it. How does this happen? According to neuroscientist Anil Seth, we're all hallucinating all the time; when we agree about our hallucinations, we call it "reality." Join Seth for a delightfully disorienting talk that may leave you questioning the very nature of your existence. In our online conversation, Anja and I exchanged ideas and perspectives: Anja van Loon Like you wrote it, seems like you have a choice in a "state of being", like temporary or permanent. That is only possible for a short amount of time. Your subconscious is 95% responsible of your thinking (choice making/ hormone production, etc) so it will requires a lot of work to "un" program your state of mind. And so a change in behavior (reaction to circumstances) It takes a lot of time to "rewrite" your subconscious, and requires a lot of conscious decision making before your subconscious is able to make automatically other choices under the same circumstances. Gary R. Smith There is always a choice in the moment to be hooked by a trigger, or to let it go. There are other ways to extend the timeless state of being, such as by Heart Breathing. Still, I agree it requires consistent conscious decision making over time to bring a more enduring shift to one's experience. Anja van Loon So embracing or letting go just an "pre" state until it is no longer something you have to do, "aware" of what is required to feel well. Instead it becomes a state of being. But we always will be human,with humanly reactions to circumstances and if they change during the day, we will always be tricked by our senses out of an survival mechanism. Once a feeling of personal security and safety is well settled (trust) we be able to keep this state permanently. Gary R. Smith I agree that trust is key to keeping the balanced state of timeless and temporal more permanently. And from a humanistic perspective you are correct, 'we always will be human,with humanly reactions to circumstances....' But, it sounds to me that this limiting perspective is part of the programming. Do any of us know what is humanly possible? Anja van Loon You have to change your point of perspective. Thinking a timeless state is the same as being in a conscious state is apples comparing with pears. So asking or it is possible to manage you subconscious is asking or you can stop breathing or to stop the pounding of your heart. The same as the difference between managing or balancing. Twisting my words would place them out of context. Maybe this will help to change your perspective? Gary R. Smith Please point out where I have twisted your words. I remember quoting you but not re-phrasing you. What makes you think *my* perspective needs to change? Nevertheless, the video looks interesting and I will give it a chance.... Anja, I watched the entire video and found it fascinating. I love this guy, and highly recommend his TED Talk. Yet, it is not without holes. All scientific disciplines he mentioned know what they know by observing and measuring, using the controlled hallucination mechanism of the brain and the limited five physical senses. How could they possibly know anything about anything beyond the controlled hallucination we live in? Ask yourself this, Anja. What advancements would humankind have made were it not for the pioneers who pushed the envelope of what is possible? I do not call myself a pioneer. But, it is my nature to question the status quo and look for other ways of seeing and doing. Much of what I write is stretching beyond what I can prove. Some comes from an internal knowing, an intuitive feeling that bypasses the hallucinating brain and the misinterpreted senses. What begins as theory to me, I put into practice and sometimes modify my first writings. It gradually becomes embodied knowing, experiential understanding. Still, all this is processed through my brain and senses and is not perfect. I share these glimpses here not to impose my view but to test them further by the response from readers and comparison with my inner feelings. I would never tell another, 'You have to change your point of perspective.' Rather, I say to you, 'I honor your perspective. Thank you for your input — and the referral to the marvelous TED Talk of Anil Seth.' |
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