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Magic Continued 11

6/3/2017

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Continued from Magic 10

Michael F

G. - "What is your definition of consciousness? And, do you know of any link between photons and consciousness?"

M. - (From Wikipedia -)

"Consciousness is the state or quality of awareness, or, of being aware of an external object or something within oneself.

 It has been defined variously in terms of sentience, awareness, subjectivity, the ability to experience or to feel, wakefulness, having a sense of selfhood or soul, the fact that there is something "that it is like" to "have" or "be" it, and the executive control system of the mind, or the state or quality of awareness, or, of being aware of an external object or something within oneself.

 In contemporary philosophy its definition is often hinted at via the logical possibility of its absence, the philosophical zombie, which is defined as a being whose behavior and function are identical to one's own yet there is "no-one in there" experiencing it." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

M. - Photons are perceived by consciousness, but are not conscious themselves.

G. - I came across the same Wikipedia entry in my browsing, before writing my definitions. If this is written from a scientific perspective, I wonder if science is often so ambiguous. And how could a person who places importance on precision of words be satisfied with such a definition?

'It has been defined variously in terms of 
sentience, 
awareness, 
subjectivity, 
the ability to experience or to feel, 
wakefulness, 
having a sense of selfhood or soul, 
the fact that there is something "that it is like" to "have" or "be" it, 
and the executive control system of the mind, 
or the state or quality of awareness, 
or, of being aware of an external object or something within oneself.'

Now, I could understand if my definition of consciousness could appear to be reducing consciousness to its simplest occurrence for the purpose of saying, 'Aha! This proves my point.' But, in actuality I have no point, only an exploring and inquiring mind which likes to look at the question of conscious matter/energy from all perspectives. I reduced the definition to its simplest occurrence to have a single starting place. By allowing that there are degrees or various applications of consciousness, that awareness can be mechanical or organic, and that it is relative to the starting place, it seems to me we have a basis for communicating.

I arrived at my definitions not by asking myself, 'How can I make a point?' but 'What is a quality which distinguishes conscious from unconscious?' and then 'What distinguishes consciousness from awareness?'

If consciousness is 'the state or quality of awareness', isn't that just double-mubble? Surely to have clarity we need to apply more distinctive definitions to each word, as my definitions do.

Michael, I haven't seen any specific response to my definitions. They are subject to revision, and I value your input.

I also have additional thoughts about the experiment. We need experimenters who are not experts as they will have pre-conceived ideas. From my perspective, they need to have proven themselves as highly sensitive to subtle energies. The communication will be over intuitive feeling, not the analytical mind. The experiment has to be conducted in the 'language' of the subject, with simple indicators of the answers.

I did not say rocks have brains, but that I am open to the idea that the atoms of which they are made have an inherent property of fundamental consciousness, which is the capacity to respond to stimuli and may be associated with a primal quality of will. The questions need to be simple and asked with humility, respect and openness. Then we may have a reasonable experiment.

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