PERSPECTIVES

Perspectives on HCL, Covid 19, and the larger picture.

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FROM THE SPIRITUALITY, SCIENCE AND METAPHYSICS COMMUNITY

NOTE: Comments herein were copy/pasted from a discussion thread, and represent a range of perspectives, by my choice as editor. Views expressed are not necessarily aligned with mine. Sources can be found in many cases by following links. I feel that to gain a more rounded view, it is useful to consider many views, with an open mind. Names are not included with the comments, to respect privacy.

Related Links:
Covid Credentials Initiative
Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows
​Global HCQ studies. PrEP, PEP, and early treatment studies show high effectiveness, while late treatment shows mixed results.
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POST BY EVIE MICHELLE
I know this is controversial subject - hydroxychloroquine. But, we have a lot of intellectual people in here and instead of attacking me for my interpretation, just explain yours. :) If this medicine has been used for over 20 years for malaria and lupus (they take consistently). Why don't they have serious heart problems or a history of heart attacks? Dr Simone Gold stated they are not allowing any pharmacies to fill the prescription. Why do you think this is? Is it due to the upcoming election or the vaccine maybe?

COMMENT BY GARY
1. We, the people, should have the freedom to debate the subject.
2. While debating, we must be mindful that some are not capable of seeing the whole picture, and misinterpretations could have tragic consequences.
3. Clearly, there are political and economic motivations throughout the whole pandemic, and some are pretty dark.
4. Sorting out the motives such as why videos about the issue are removed by YouTube, gets complicated, but let's not jump to conclusions.
5. What really is happening remains to be seen.
6. The drug may be relatively safe and effective, but only under a doctors care, when caught early, and used in combination, as a treatment protocol.
7. Supposedly 'unbiased journalism' such as The Epoch Times also has hidden agendas and questionable reporting. No source can be fully trusted, no information taken at its face value....
8. Considering what we know by experience is happening with the censorship of our freedom of speech, isn't it time that we, the people, form a strategy to enable us to network without the threat of our posts disappearing? I would suggest a responsible approach, as surely some censorship is in the interest of public safety. Are we not mature enough, as a people, to make some of those decisions ourselves, or at least have influence about what should be censored, rather than continuing to allow our speech to be restricted by a hierarchical system with questionable motives?
9. A strategy of the people could include guidelines to help each of us discern fact from fiction, and not be unduly swayed by irrelevant associations. For example, if we have a personal disliking for a source of information, we needn't allow our response to be colored by that association. We can open our minds enough to look at the central facts more objectively, rather than lump our response under our distrust of the information source.

​In the eye of a storm, there is calm.
In the midst of chaos, order.
In the center of conflict, peace.

As on the ebb and flow of tide,
my breathing carries me, until
I Am the breathing, and the ocean.

An ocean of consciousness,
the I Am that I Am.
Bounded by earth and sky,
It Is what It Is.

In the purity of perfection,
the mind rests and is still,
the heart unshields and is open,
the spirit leaps to be free.

Free to express the source of all love,
free to express the source of all life.

I Am that I Am, and
It Is what It Is.

So I rise above the storm,
undisturbed by the chaos,
untouched by the conflict.

And the voice speaks,
'Keep your eyes upon me
in the midst of the storm,
saith the Lord I Am.
For there will be a storm,
yet you remain forever free.'

Breathe in, breathe out,
like the ebb and flow of tide,
I Am that I Am - It Is what It Is.

This poem is derived from the 'Heart Breathing Mantra', which is available as an audio file, by downloading or upon request.
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A simple version of the 'Heart Breathing Mantra' is this:

When you are ready, move into a comfortable position, with your eyes open or closed.
Calm your mind, relax your body, and connect to yourself as pure, radiant, consciousness.
Visualize, with feeling, the Present Moment Sphere encompassing your body.

Breathe Present Moment Light, deeply into the sphere around your heart.
Exhale the Light from your heart sphere, out through your body, radiating the energies into your Present Moment Sphere.
Continue to breathe light energies, between the sphere around your heart, and your Present Moment Sphere, for as long as you choose.

Be the breathing, as you continue to visualize the Present Moment Sphere.
Like the ebb and flow of tide, the rhythm of breathing carries you.
Now, add these words to your breathing, inhaling them deeply and feeling their energy.

Inhale - I Am that I Am
Exhale - It Is what It Is

Continue as long as you choose, or intuitively feel.
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READER COMMENT
The reason there are issues for some people and not others is that meds react differently to different illnesses as well as different physiological aspects. Is this a bad product, no, however studies have shown little to no benefit compared with Remdisivir; yet we have non medical professionals touting hydroxychloroquine as the best option for COVID. I have a cousin who takes this for Lyme. There are medical warnings she has to watch out for (like with any med). If a medical doctor is prescribing this to a patient that is between the doctor and the patient. When non medical professionals are pushing it as the answer or a comparable alternative to other more proven options it becomes dangerous. A dear friend of mine just pushed this on her FB as a “very strong” option to help treat COVID. She had no medical background and when she was asked how she came to that conclusion she touted the African doctor that Trump recently commended. Please know that Trump and his family have stake in the company that makes hydroxychloroquine and some of his top donors have very large stakes in that company! Ulterior motives make the conversation much less believable in the face of the science!

​COMMENT BY GARY
Considering ulterior motives can cloud the central issue, of how HCL should be viewed as a treatment for COVID-19. There is a large body of evidence suggesting that in a treatment protocol administered by a medical professional, and in an early stage, HCL can be effective against the virus. That should be left to the doctor.

It is irrelevant whether Trump profits or Dr. Immanuel has beliefs which raise eyebrows, when the central question is, does HCL work against COVID-19, at a lower cost when that is an issue, and with a relative degree of safety? I would add, if profit to Trump should be considered, then should not also profit to Big Pharma?

READER COMMENT
​Great post and responses. This is what John Rappoport had to say and I tend to agree “Pharma and all its allies and minions and whores are focusing on a jackpot bonanza for COVID treatment: vaccines and new antiviral drugs. Pharma does not want competition. It definitely does not want to see a landscape in which all sorts of alternative treatments for COVID (or any purported disease) are rampant and free-wheeling.

We are seeing multiple censorship actions across platforms, when people, including doctors, speak positively about HCQ.

Fauci is very much in the pro-Pharma camp, of course. He and Gates want an RNA vaccine to come to market, by any means necessary. They also want antiviral drugs to dominate COVID treatment.

A very sharp reader spelled out the Pharma-anticipated future for these new (toxic) antiviral medicines. And not just for COVID. Up to now, there has been very little mainstream progress in getting drugs specifically designed to treat viruses into the marketplace. This is Pharma's big opportunity. They envision a trillion-dollar operation that will elevate antivirals (for treating any viruses) to the level of, say, antibiotics, which are used against bacteria. COVID would simply be the first major "breakthrough."

So we have a war going on. HCQ and other alternative modalities vs. vaccines and antivirals. Pharma does want to lose this one. It would be disastrous”

READER COMMENT
​Hydroxychoriquin does have some serious side effects that are well documented. Famotidine is even more effective against COVID-19 and it has no common side effects. It is one of the safest drugs and is cheap and available over the counter as Pepcid. This information is really being suppressed.
https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/Pepcid-treat-COVID-19/98/i25
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READER COMMENT
If you leave it to big-pharma and the medical cartel, they will use it the wrong way. They only advocate for "treatments" that are expensive and help advance their agendas -- in this case getting Covid numbers as high as possible to make everyone scared so they can MANDATE their vaccine on everyone. If you now demand they use low-cost simple known-effective treatments they will intentionally sabotage it. These people are murderers. In the below "trials" they gave HCQ at the wrong time (way too late after people were on ventilators -- which are known to be absolutely the WRONG treatment for Covid) and in KNOWN LETHAL DOSES of 2400mg in the first day which is SEVEN TIMES the max recommended safe dose. Then when 25%+ of the patients died they "conclude" that HCQ is not an effective treatment.
https://ahrp.org/covid-19-has-turned-public-health-into-a-lethal-patient-killing-experimental-endeavor/?fbclid=IwAR0SXBSAxvl3JhYD1bdQx_s73eqDadto36vBdqIKLPcpYVWChx54hLhWQq4

READER COMMENT
​Hydroxy works for many in a specific cocktail. And if you think hydroxy coverup is shocking wait until you learn about the negative impacts of the lockdown. Social engineering, profiteering and power/wealth consolidation on an unprecedented global scale.

READER COMMENT
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/07/200724104228.htm?fbclid=IwAR1e2e5jc0Wpy5wDxi6LEmjmkNDnqiGTXjDJSqPUmTK7rUGoKCv9QJz6Q8U

READER COMMENT
​It’s totally political, with an agenda for vaccines, chip and cashless society, not unlike what they have in China.
If enough people speak out, things may change. The gov of Ohio just reversed his decision to prevent the use of HCQ for CV.

READER COMMENT
I work for a Heath and Wellness clinic and we just ordered these.
Go to www.medbb.com and search for Generic Plaquenil. Which is Hydroxychloroquine.

READER COMMENT
​Background
Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is caused by a newly discovered coronavirus (SARS-CoV). No effective prophylactic or post-exposure therapy is currently available.

Results
We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2.

​This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations.
ConclusionChloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection. In addition, the indirect immunofluorescence assay described herein represents a simple and rapid method for screening SARS-CoV antiviral compounds.

​READER COMMENT
Anyone follow the herbalist/holistic health goddess Organic Olivia on IG? She just had a 3 hour podcast on how both of her parents nearly dropped dead from Covid in early March. Mom was on a ventilator for weeks and her Dad was in the hospital with severe symptoms. She credits hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and a z pack for helping to save them. ALSO they tried to get her dad to participate in a study for the other drug their pushing and didn’t even tell him it was a placebo study! Follow the money and of how cheap and generic hydroxy is versus the others their trying to push.
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READER COMMENT
Here's a recipe for HCL if you can't get it.

Everything is anecdotal but I would definitely make this!

Hydroxychloroquine:....The drug that is currently treating this VIRUS.....watch below as I show you the recipe and how to make this solution at home, minus Big Pharmas fillers and preservatives.

Thats right........this is the REAL reason that the drug companies were furious about this cure. Not only has it proven to eliminate this virus....but others as well. It was supposed to be a BIG kept secret...but TRUMP blew that for them right away.

What is Hydroxychloroquine exactly? It is nothing but Quinine. Something that anyone can make at home....and something that is being manufactured each and every day in the form of something we have all seen at the grocery and liquor stores.........None other than TONIC WATER. Yes....Tonic Water has the exact same Quinine that this drug being used to treat the Covid virus has.

This was NEVER supposed to be leaked out...because even a full treatment regime of pills from the Doctor is less than a 100.00 for someone that does NOT have insurance. Something else you may find interesting is that when they created this virus, they also put a STRAIN of HIV in it. This was to make it even more fatal. But.....guess what........the Quinine Killed that part of the AIDS virus as well. Can you see now why they were screaming that this was a Dangerous Drug and NOT TO DARE USE IT. Behind the scene studies are now coming forth that show it being effective other diseases as well and even on Cancers. I think in the days to come, we are going to find out a whole lot more than we ever thought we knew.

If you listened to our President this week, he said that "in one year, every treatment that we are now using in the hospitals will be obsolete". What does he know? He knows that they have withheld these cures to keep people sick and to make millions off of insurance companies.

Quinine has many uses and applications. It is analgesic, anesthetic, antiarrhythmic, antibacterial, antimalarial, antimicrobial, antiparasitic, antipyretic, antiseptic, antispasmodic, antiviral, astringent, bactericide, cytotoxic, febrifuge, fungicide, insecticide, nervine, stomachic, tonic.......so you can be SURE that BIG PHARMA is scared to death at this point and screaming that this drug DOES NOT WORK...when the entire world sees that it is working.

If you ever feel a chest cold coming on or just feel like crap....make your own Quinine. It is made out of the peelings of Grapefruits and Lemons, ...but especially Grapefruits. I will give you the recipe here and you take this concoction throughout the day...or you can make a TEA out of it and drink it all day. This should take away all your fears about this VIRUS, because you now have the defense against it and many other things. If you take ZINC with this recipe, the zinc propels the Quinine into your cells for a much faster healing.
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Here is all you need to do to make your very own Quinine.................................Take the rind of 2-3 grapefruits. Take the peel only and cover it with water about 3 inches above the peels.Put a glass lid on your pot if you have one....a metal one is fine if you dont. Let it simmer for about 2 hours. Do not take the lid off of the pot till it cools completely as this will allow the Quinine to escape in the steam. Sweeten the tea with honey or sugar since it will be bitter. Take 1 tablespoon every couple of hours to bring up the phlegm from your lungs. Discontinue as soon as you get better......

READER COMMENT
​Outcomes of 3,737 COVID-19 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin and other regimens in Marseille, France: A retrospective analysis

Conclusion
Although this is a retrospective analysis, results suggest that early diagnosis, early isolation and early treatment of COVID-19 patients, with at least 3 days of HCQ-AZ lead to a significantly better clinical outcome and a faster viral load reduction than other treatments.

​STAGES OF THE PROCESS
I can understand that YouTube and others remove videos which misinform and lead people towards dangerous conclusions which present a health hazard.

But the Frontline Doctors Summit video does not present any health hazard (according to the Epoch Times article linked), only an option which big pharma doesn't like because it means the loss of big potential profit. Their video was censored by YouTube. Now we know. Or, at least, it is clear to me that these social media networks are likely in collusion with corrupt corporate interests, which do not serve the health and well-being of the public....

Look at the available facts - Hydroxychloroquine is sold over the counter in several countries and has proven to be safe and effective in various applications. Doctors worldwide claim it is effective against Covid 19, in a combined treatment protocol. What is the risk to the public? Americans cannot purchase it legally, anyway, and could only receive it under a doctor's care.

There is a claim that Hydroxychloroquine has caused kidney failure in some patients. Have you read the possible side effects of prescription drugs in general? Why should that potential risk be enough to stop the usage of Hydroxychloroquine? At least, shouldn't American doctors be free to administer the drug as part of their treatment? Shouldn't usual protocols for double blind studies be waived in this crisis situation, given the proven safety of the drug? Its effectiveness can be proven in the field.

According to some sources, hospitals are being incentivized to put COVID-19 patients on ventilators, which in some cases kills them. It is said that life insurance companies (and maybe others) push to have the cause of death listed as COVID-19, even if the cause of death was unrelated to the virus, because it means they don't have big payouts.

Some say the Frontline Doctors Summit is a push by Trump supporters. I have strong feelings against Trump's rape of the environment, abuse of his position for personal gain, abrasive mannerisms and apparent disposition towards using force. I was aghast when he was elected, and never have been a 'Trump supporter.' But, I do not see why economics or politics should enter the discussion of Hydroxychloroquine as a potential medical treatment.

The W.H.O. is supported, and presumably controlled to some degree, by the Chinese Communist Party, the Gates Foundation, and 'Big Pharma.'

Google, YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter remove posts which do not fit with their agenda, such as the Frontline Doctors Summit.

It would be interesting to see the trails of payments and favors, to know who gets what from the W.H.O., and what the W.H.O. gets from who.

​Facebook, Twitter, YouTube Remove Video of Doctors Who Support Hydroxychloroquine​
​https://www.theepochtimes.com/facebook-twitter-youtube-remove-video-of-doctors-who-support-hydroxychloroquine_3440775.html

Now, mind, remain still, and rest in the field of being.

Dr. Darrell Wolfe introduces the 'You Can't Handle the Truth' video by saying, 'this isn't going to happen.' So, if something that scares the living daylights out of people isn't going to happen, why put it out to the public? Many, after seeing the Covid Credentials Initiative, the Universal Registrar, and 'guardianship,' will freak out and not remember Dr. Wolfe's words.

A 'best response' to this type of thing needs to be developed. Here is a start:

1. It is imperative to remain calm. Lower emotional energies of fear and anger exactly fuel the forces behind the threat to humanity.
2. Rather than feed the dark forces, starve them by raising the frequency of the individual energy field, such as by the Heart Breathing Mantra:

O, deep of consciousness.
I am, that I am.
It is, what It is.
Let my mind, remain still.
Let my heart, remain open.
Let my spirit, remain free!
Free to express, the source of all love.
Free to express, the source of all life.
With all my being, so let it be.

The 'I am, that I am - It is, what It is' represents the purity of perfection. The mantra has been recorded and is available as audio files which I am glad to Messenger to anyone, or they can be downloaded from:
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https://www.wholehuman.emanatepresence.com/