Magic Continued 2

This conversation thread is a continuation from Magic Continued 1, which ended with this comment:

Joshua Faust
​... from my vantage, magic: to transform our circumstance by applied means is best done through the alchemy of the self, and the holiest of magic is that of alignment with the divinity. 

Thus, what I found, it is of utmost importance to clear away the detritus within so the gift that lay within us may come forth. Synchronicity is the reflections in our manifestation, or the quantum field, which is immediately responding and intelligent. These reflection are neutral signs of the realms of consciousness we are passing through, reminders of the territory of our manifestation....​

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​Adam Apollo Amorastreya
Wow, thanks Gary and Michael... Both of you gentlemen are quite prolific. I wish I had the time this evening to spend a few more hours writing on Facebook and engaging more deeply in this conversation, but I have enjoyed reading your responses immensely. 

Michael, I am 100% with you on needing to refine our systems of subjective self-study, and develop better experimental tests for metaphysical and existential phenomenon, and improve our philosophical proofs. Personally, I'm deeply engaged in this process, and have been since I was a teenager. While I couldn't share much of my work in this short video, or even my semi-brief text response, I do my best to dive as deeply as possible into the thought experiments, questions, and logic to approach these phenomena with my students and other faculty. 

I find the level of presence and dedication to real quality conversation improves dramatically when someone commits to learning or studying something, especially when they are willing to pay to participate in a workshop with a community of peers. Compared to the results of a blog post or video on YouTube, it's generally like a college symposium VS a spit-ball fight in a cafeteria. 

That being said, I've been pleasantly surprised by the level of depth you gentlemen bring to the flash mob comment format FB is famous for. 

Without backtracking too far tonight, I did read much of your conversation on "black and white magic." My contribution to that would simply be:

Black Magic is any act of conscious will intended to occlude the conscious will of another being or the self.

White Magic is any act of conscious will that honors the conscious will of other beings, and either seeks to improve the clarity, awareness, and capacity of others to enact that will, or to improve the clarity, awareness, and capacity of the self to enact conscious will.

Gary R. Smith 
Adam Apollo Amorastreya,

"Black Magic is any act of conscious will intended to occlude the conscious will of another being or the self. White Magic is any act of conscious will that honors the conscious will of other beings, and either seeks to improve the clarity, awareness, and capacity of others to enact that will, or to improve the clarity, awareness, and capacity of the self to enact conscious will."

We are in alignment on that one. I enjoy and appreciate the definition and your response.

Rod MacKinnon 
Hi Gary R. Smith...Michael F. …. I’ve been thinking about one of your conversations wherein you, Michael, talked about two comparative examples, one of intentional design…a house being built to a planned blueprint and another of accidental outcomes, that of a cave being formed by a river flowing to the sea.

Thinking about the nature of IT (Intangible /Tangible-All-That-Is), from observation, IT appears to have a passion for constant, spontaneous, innovation within defined parameters. This description can also be applied to artists, musicians, performers…. anyone who creates within their art form, purely for the sake of doing it. In the creation of an artwork there’s a relationship occurring between the artist and the artwork. An accomplished jazz player, improvising, plays as a spontaneous response to the sound as it is being created… art, artwork and artist are a gestalt, a unified integrated entity……self-creating….there’s no separation… and the “design” isn’t rigid…it’s a conscious, intelligent, spontaneous response to itself…. Perhaps IT is of a similar nature…

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