Can the meta-state of oneness consciousness be induced (without chemicals) and maintained?
It is a state beyond a state, so a 'meta-state'.
In discussions over the past week, some have postulated that a person could not function while in oneness consciousness, or that it would be an empty, lonely and boring place to live. In my experience, neither of those suppositions are so.
Instead, it is a meta-state of expanded awareness unlike anything that can be described or conveyed. Intellectual apprehension of oneness is futile. It can only be experienced.
Generally, oneness consciousness is spontaneous, according to what I have read. But, I feel it is possible, especially now due to the cosmic energies and alignments, to deliberately enter the meta-state. Some may enter it effortlessly and without focusing attention on the means. Others, like me, seem to have barriers to work through, such as intellectualism.
I am interested in reading all viewpoints, and in having inter-actions, around this post question.
My response to a deeply thoughtful post by Monica in one of the groups may help stimulate discussion here.
She wrote, in part: 'All the QUESTIONS in the MIND will start NULLIFYING itSELF and what will be left is NAMELESS and FORMLESS. It will be SELF AWARENESS which internally YOU will be ABLE to RECOGNISE it but unexplainable. YOU will KNOW that you are that🔥.
It is DEEPER than a STATE because states are also PERCEIVABLE. And YOU will not need SOMEONE to TELL you that this is your NATURAL BEING🔥.
And I wrote in response:
Oneness consciousness is inexpressible, ineffable, and beyond all possibility of communicating or conveying... but that doesn't stop us from trying!
Experience beats all intellectual knowledge or understanding. I would say "trumps" but that may be a triggering word for some.
It is not linear or hierarchical. In fact, more can probably be said about what it is *not* than what it is.
To respond to your post, I feel best with my narrative of the soul journey into oneness consciousness, the Void. I 'go there' every day. Even better, to offer the experience of the 'soul lying in the grass where the world is too full to talk about', as Rumi wrote. So the video of that journey is linked below.
Also, the story of Bob Berman's oneness experience says it without saying it, and follows:
Beyond Biocentrism: Facing Reality
A oneness experience by co-author Bob Berman
"Now I was studying for a physiology test when something in the textbook about the visual part of the brain suddenly gave me a split-second insight that the distinction between 'external' and 'internal' is unreal. Then that intellectual insight abruptly changed into something else.
"An enormous weight I'd never realized I had borne was suddenly lifted. An experience began that no words could convey. It was ineffable and life-altering. The best I can say is that 'I' was suddenly gone, replaced by the certainty of being the entire cosmos. There was absolute peace. I knew with total confidence, not logically--because, as I said, Bob was no longer present--that birth and death do not exist. That all is perfect eternally, that time is unreal, and that all is one. The joy was beyond anything I could have imagined. The to-the-marrow certainty could perhaps be better described as a recognition, an ancient familiarity of being Home.
"When the intense initial experience faded, the room returned, and my textbooks lay before me. Except, all was now profoundly altered. Let's call this 'the second level of the experience.' There was still no sense of a separate 'me,' an observer looking out upon the world. Rather, everything was a oneness, and I was whatever my eyes gazed upon. It was as if my consciousness had previously been long confined, like a canary in a little cage, and that a false sense of being a separate, isolated, thinking individual had now vanished. Objects were no longer separate items existing in space; instead, everything was the same continuum.
"When a person came into view, I was this person. The universe was one entity for all time. There were not billions of humans and animals. There was one living, deathless entity. (And no, in case you're wondering, this experience was not chemically induced.) If this sounds fabulous, well, no words could begin to convey the clarity.
"The experience lasted three weeks, during which time no thought flitted across my consciousness. But eventually the ongoing stream of mental chatter, of being an individual, an observer, returned--accompanied by a loss of the peace and oneness...."
The image is by an artist unknown to me. If any reader has information, please pass it on, so I may ask permission. Thank you.
I hear so much about these states and yearn to experience them myself, but I’m still working at it. From what I understand logically (and of course the astral is not logical) a first experience can change perception on what is and answer many questions about ‘the beyond’. In that sense it’s lasting.
To get into such a state and maintain control over it is another thing, and seems like it would require a ton of practice. Though I suppose mystics or some may have more of a natural ability to navigate such realms at will than others.
The Astral Planes are one thing. Oneness consciousness is something else.
I do believe it can be induced with or without chemicals and maintained....I can reach that point with meditation or the right music and tones or when doing something creative like painting or working with my plants. I can function very well in that state when alone, it's when I am around other people that I find it difficult.....to me it's like the difference in our 3D world then living in the 5D world....we have to balance our time between the two.
From zero point which Is the only constant in life to source ever expanding and flowing and growing constantly folding back to source.. So yes ”i” is only the awareness but used as a form to express the awareness. Which to each person that embodies that awareness is the expression of it's creativity.
This was so eye opening for me and I appreciated learning a new word, biocentrism. I would agree with your thoughts about the space between and that being where certain elemental energy calls home. I also appreciated your perspective on zero point energy and how, even though incalculable, is still a force in to its own.
As we know, biological molecules are in a constant state of expression, constant movement. It is of no surprise to read your thoughts of the way energetic matter expresses itself per your example of the flower of life. Much like human dna and how, if sliced in half, also resembles the flower of life with fixed points and ever changing molecular expression.
Thank you Gary R. Smith for sharing this!
Is it truly possible that you ever in this embodiment will have a 360 degree view. Maybe we all have a piece of the whole view to realize the sum of us is creating that 360 degree vision.
Yes, when I am able to feel each perspective neutrally (without reaction) and allow it to integrate, my view grows more rounded. That doesn't mean I have to agree with all, but at least be okay that each person has their view. It is a process which expands my view towards the 360 degrees which may only be possible in the continuum of oneness consciousness. From that post,
'Each perspective, including this one, is a fragment of the whole. If I want a 360 degree view, I must let go of defenses and my position, and consider all viewpoints, without judgment or pre-conception.
'When a person expresses their view, so long as it is not done to deliberately deceive, shouldn't it be upon the reader to discern, do their own research, and contribute to a more rounded perspective for all....
'Yet, honestly and sincerely, my embodiment of oneness consciousness, the only lasting saving grace for humanity, is more essential than all of this.'
That is a fascinating picture. It is also an inspiration, is that not what consciousness is? The ability to use your senses and with that sense of wonder, create a consciousness you would like to explore, is this what humanity will do in the future.
Yes, that is what I feel. May I add your comment to the Whole Human blog post?
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