META COMMENTS 002

COMMENTS ON THE META-COMMENT POST

Larry Vorwerk
A long but well thought out message on Oneness and separation. Here are some of my own thoughts on this. Some of the excitement in the return to Oneness, as I see it, is the journey itself. You can intellectualize Oneness and you can be Oneness. At the same time I also realize that Oneness can have different levels of intensity to it. (No real words that truly explain this)

I'm starting to realize this through personal experiences and recent conversations on the subject. Even while in a state of oneness there is still a self, the human body that is experiencing oneness, even though in a sense the human body is an illusion.

But eventually as the oneness intensifies, (for the use of a word), the human physical body can't contains the energy that the oneness is. And the oneness/or all that is goes back into it's own state of no human physical form. I'll share my own experience of this, in the next reply that shows this to some degree. I've shared this next passage before here in this group. I also welcome other people's comments on the subject here.

I know that Oneness Consciousness is a reality, because I experienced it in 1988. It changed my life. I eventually wrote about it in my book The Bartholomew Effect: Awakening to Oneness, published in 2010 by Two Harbors Press.

As I lay in bed, suddenly and to my astonishment, I found myself moving from a conscious state into another state of consciousness that was completely new to me. Amazingly, I was very calm and relaxed.

At first, one soul’s consciousness literally merged with mine. What came next is difficult to explain because the experience is uncommon to most people. Often, an unusual experience can be explained in terms of another experience that is universally understood. In this case, there really are no words to express another state of being.

I felt an increased state of illumination and knowledge within my physical body that surpassed anything that I had ever known. Then another soul’s consciousness merged with the two of us. With that experience, again came an increased state of illumination and knowledge that exponentially multiplied. I was in an all-knowing state of consciousness during this time without understanding how I instantly knew the combined wisdom of higher realms of being.

This continued until approximately 12 souls became One with me. At this point, the level of ecstasy was greater than I could contain. I had to make a decision either to leave my physical body behind, as it would have spontaneously imploded or to return to my regular state of consciousness. I’m here, so you know my decision.

This was a totally life-altering experience because I knew that in a higher state of being, we are literally One. I retained only a fraction of what happened in that short time; however, I will always remember that experience.

More recently as I merge regularly with the 60,000 souls of the consciousness of the new world that I'm apart of in my next "incarnation" I realize that there is a reducer valve between me, my human body, and the merging, of the 60,000. This keeps me from leaving my physical body as I could have in my other experience years ago in the above reply.

To use an analogy, years ago I lived in a house that had just put in a new water line. We were the first house on the line and the water pressure entering the house was so great that it would have blown all of the pipes out in the house. So they put in a reducer valve that lessened the water pressure entering the house. This is what is happening now for me. I still get an intense experience, but at a level that my physical body can take. I've shared about the 60,000 souls in an earlier post.

Amiee Laun
I know this too. Deep in my soul. I yearn for others who know this. Knowing this and coming from this knowing defines my whole life and until now, has appeared to keep me seperate from so many others on this physical plane who cannot comprehend it. I feel the seeming seperateness as a distortion of our current 3D experience. But I can feel it, even as I feel the oneness of a higher plane. I can feel both at once. I cant explain it very well. Its like I can change channels from one movie to another movie.

Sharon Hart
Gary, yes “I” experience “AllThatis” as Who I am and who everyone is at the core - whether recognized or not.

And “AllThatIs” can be realized even as the “I” waves in and out, appearing and disappearing.

The “I” has birth and death but the “AllThatIs” is life itself.

What “I” have become fascinated with is how this shift in identification occurs and how one can be guided to make this shift. What “I” have discovered is that often emotions such as fear, sadness and anger appear as the “I” turns to look at “AllThatIs”. By fully being present to true feelings with a quiet mind there is a shift from -“I” am having feelings to -a realization that feelings are arising and disappearing into AllThatIs” and that there is.
https://www.hartwisdom.community/quantum-dialogue-works/

Larry Vorwerk
I'm starting to find this In and out as you put it easier to do as "time" goes along. "And “AllThatIs” can be realized even as the “I” waves in and out, appearing and disappearing."