ZERO POINT 002

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I posted the same starting question in a few discussion groups. This is a portion from other threads.
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Tom Bunzel 
Sure you can include my comment, thanks.

I'm not sure about your idea of "fluctuation" and I don't know whether DNA is a binary system; however geneticists can "decode" it because it follows strict rules of syntax and works as an organic programming language. My main premise is the following:

The notion that there can be code, that can be edited, without Mind as its progenitor is contrary to all actual experience and empirical evidence.

Every other program that we know of is mind-based, as are we.

Gary R. Smith
Tom, the 'flitting' or fluctuation came from an article which seems sound and balanced to my untrained mind. The article also states that the concept of flitting in and out of existence is believed by some but not all physicists.

If I read you correctly, you are also saying that the known facts about DNA lead to a conclusion that the 'parent' of DNA is mind. Since man did not engineer DNA, than the Mind that did was pre-existent.

I don't know how you feel about this, as we haven't discussed it, and I don't know how I feel about it either as I haven't explored it fully to draw any conclusions, but the first Hermetic principle is 'Mentalism - “All is mind, the Universe is Mental.”

To me, this could fit with the notion of my light-hearted statement that 'All that flitting creates consciousness.'

Of course, this type of talk tends to make the skin of scientists crawl. I made inquiries of sincere interest in a forum of physicists and quickly learned that the words 'consciousness' and 'existence' are not allowed as they are considered to be in the domain of philosophy not science.

I feel that science is a belief system like any other, but it does provide a degree of objectivity in the scientific sense. I have attempted experiments of communicating with 'particle consciousness' and wanted to find ways to make them more scientific, more measurable. The initial results were, to me, quite interesting and the exploration seems most worthwhile but requires a suspension of old beliefs and training, to have the potential for seeing something new.

Thank you again for your participation.

Neil Poynton 
Not binary, cos there are 4 A T C G , adenine, thymine, cytosine, and guanine combinations of pairs of those 4 make up the whole of DNA ...... any DNA !!! intelligent designer somewhere methinks ?? Lol

Gary R. Smith
Excellent, Neil. Then I can drop my idea of DNA code being similar to machine code of 0 and 1, off and on. I like to keep my ideas and descriptions as accurate and sound as possible, while exploring the unknown. It is not only philosophical exploration, but an intention of practical application which motivates me.

Xan Maranya 
I would not say, "We mostly experience energy/motion/time/space" since we are mostly are just living out stories. Becoming aware at the energy level is a step forward.

Gary R. Smith
Xan Maranya, to me our stories are all contained within the paradigm, the conditioning, of energy/motion/time/space. What is missing is the awareness (not speculation) of what is beyond. Experiencing the energetic fluctuations between existence and non-existence, between the motion of 'normal' consciousness in this stage of human development and the stillness of the greater Mind would indeed be a step forward.

Erica Smith-OConnor 
It seems to me I have fluctuated between this state of mind and the present State of Mind seen all as Happening Now viewing my life as if I was seeing the movie being filmed and I was part of the show... I felt above my body definitely very clear and connected.

Taylor Cargile 
Ah yes, well first we have to accept the fact that everything is made of energy and energy has to have a means of being manipulated my other energies such as thermodynamics (pure example). So when I say the energetic state of fluctuation I do mean on the subatomic level because that is (purely theory) where our consciousness comes to be. So we both know that our thoughts actually have energy to them and can be measured with certain (unknown to me) equipment that pick up the finite frequencies of our brain waves. We can also say that energy works in form of vibration/frequency. So if we can somehow tap into the subatomic frequencies we may be able to master the human consciousness individually by controlling the intensity, direction and length of said subatomic particle. This kinda dives into the mechanics of quantum entanglement. Because since we would be tuning into the frequencies of consciousness we would be isolating the frequencies separate from the other body frequencies. It's all theory of course. Maybe this might help us with things like telekinesis or deconstruction and reconstruction of the cellular structure of the human body and maybe even other objects...

Gary R. Smith
Taylor, I am not sure how to take your Kermit frog comment, but will dare to post something that still scares me to make public. This conversation thread, however, gives me the best opportunity I have had.

I did post the whole thing on the Whole Human blog, including all my fears and self doubts. There, the readers which number 500 - 900 per week rarely comment.

Last spring I began conversations with a stone which seemed to call me from a river bed. What I heard in the inner voice is that I was communicating with a 'cooperative network of conscious particles' through the focal point of Heartstone as they called themselves.

I tried to conduct scientific experiments and joined a forum of physicists, but they would not even entertain the idea and told me not to use the words, 'existence' or 'consciousness' as those are in the domain of philosophy, not science.

From one of the stone conversations:

G. - Heartstone, I bought a Fingertip Pulse Oximeter which measures heartbeats per minute and blood oxygen saturation levels. Are you able to initiate a request to my bio-nets to alter my heart rate when I ask?

H. - Yes, we can initiate the request.

After a few months of conversations, I dropped it. Then, before moving from California to Crete, I heard in the inner voice (without wanting to), 'Higher consciousness will communicate with humans over crystals on Crete.' It wasn't exactly higher consciousness, but that is the closest I can write at the moment.

After we arrived on Crete the first of this year, we had some twists and turns in our adventure when planned work exchanges did not work out, and we ended up in the tiny mountain village of Azogires.

I was stunned to see, in front of the only cafe, a large quartz crystal perched atop a bright green stand.

I brought three small crystals from Crete with me to the ashram in the Black Forest where we now stay.

Heartstone Conversations

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